In this podcast video, Dr. Hotze interviews Dr. Thomas Levy, a board-certified cardiologist, bar-certified attorney, author, and world-renowned expert on vitamin C, about the many benefits of high-dose vitamin C for disease prevention and treatment.
2:28: If I could only give two vitamin or mineral supplementation recommendations, that’s all that they allowed, I would pick vitamin C and I would pick magnesium. Those two would be key in my book.
6:16: I saw diseases get better that aren’t supposed to get better. I saw some diseases resolve that aren’t supposed to resolve.
12:05: Every physician I’ve ever talked to that does natural approaches to health, either had a personal problem themselves, a family member had a problem, and that is what pointed them in the direction of the natural approaches to health.
15:10: Your doctor doesn’t have a right to kill you. Which is when the doctor denies a family intravenous vitamin C in the intensive care unit for anything and they die a day or two later, that’s as clear cut manslaughter, possible homicide, as I can think of.
18:45: Dr. Marik out of Virginia came out, is it Marik who came out with this article and it was 2017, he was an ICU specialist and he was treating individuals with sepsis with antibiotics. There was a 40% death rate and he decided to put them on IV vitamin C, cortisol and thiamine and he reduced the death rate to 8%.
19:30: “This doctor out of Virginia did exactly what you’ve been saying we needed to do. He’s using IV vitamin C and there are patients that are getting well.”
19:41: My friend Dr. Tom Levy has written about this. He’s written about how doctors all the way back to Dr. Klenner and on and on have used vitamin C literally for decades to heal viral illness and other infectious disease illnesses.
21:42: Vitamin C cures scurvy which is a fatal disease in the end point. Vitamin C and other vitamins have been used to cure diseases. Now, we believe that in high doses it can cure a host of other diseases.
23:29: Somewhere along the line, he just decided that 10, 20, 30, 40 gram administration intravenously would cure polio, measles, mumps, all the viral infectious diseases and many bacterial diseases, as well. He also, in the same fashion, found out that vitamin C was the ultimate anti-toxin.
24:55: Wherever there is oxidized biomolecules, vitamin C can reduce them, give them electrons again and restore their normal function.
27:04: Here at the Hotze Health & Wellness Center we do have an IV room and we do use IV vitamin C and we use Myers Cocktails. We use NAD, we use glutathione.
28:39: Vitamin C is what I call an absolute virucide. It will destroy any virus that it comes in contact with. In the medical literature that’s what it has done.
28:51: There has never been a virus against which vitamin C has been tested where it has not completely neutralized and/or broken down the structure of the virus.
35:09: Eat healthy. Eat whole foods and eliminate the simple carbs which convert to sugar and suppress the immune system and create inflammation.
Stacey: Welcome to Dr. Hotze’s Wellness Revolution. I’m Stacey Bandfield here with Dr. Steven Hotze, founder of the Hotze Health & Wellness Center. We have a great show today. We have Dr. Thomas Levy and he is an expert on supplements and how supplements can actually help you live longer, so we’ll be talking about vitamin C, magnesium and delving into some other supplements, as well. Dr. Hotze.
Dr. Hotze: Thank you so very much and thank you for joining us today on Dr. Hotze’s Wellness Revolution. Yes, we have a revolution going on in the country where we want you and everybody you know to take charge of their own health. No doctor, no pharmaceutical company, insurance company, no spouse, no politician is in charge of your health. You and you alone are in charge of your health. If you want to be healthy, there are measures and habits that you can develop that will keep you healthy, enabling you to fight off all kinds of infections and diseases that commonly plagued mankind since the beginning of time.
We have today on our program a man whose work and individually I have admired for decades. It’s Dr. Thomas Levy. Dr. Thomas Levy is a board certified cardiologist. He happens to be a bar certified lawyer on top of it. He has both things going for him, but Dr. Levy, fascinating, board certified cardiologist who has promoted for decades the use of vitamin C. In fact, he’s written a wonderful book entitled Curing the Incurable. It is a must read about vitamin C. We’re going to visit about vitamin C. You all that have listened to my program know what a strong advocate I am for vitamin C. If I could only give two vitamin or mineral supplementation recommendations, that’s all that they allowed, I would pick vitamin C and I would pick magnesium. Those two would be key in my book.
Guess who’s written books about both these? Dr. Levy and we’re going to talk about at least vitamin C today. We may get into magnesium.
Dr. Thomas Levy: I agree 100% that those are the top two.
Dr. Hotze: If I had only one prescription I could write, or two prescriptions I would write, I would write for desiccated thyroid and I would write, for men, testosterone to put a tiger back in your tank, boys. Also, natural female hormones, I would recommend progesterone for women. Those are two of the prescriptions, compounded prescriptions. I would make all the rest, leave it alone, if you took those the rest of your life, thyroid, natural replenisher, natural sex hormones to vitamin C and to magnesium, you’d be much better off and live a much longer healthy life.
By the way, as we age, our goal is, with all our guests, is to have you have energy, vitality and enthusiasm for life. If you’re going to be alive you might as well be enthusiastic about it. Remember, enthusiasm means to be filled with the Spirit of God. Entheos, theos, is the Greek word for God, it means to be filled, to be filled with God. To be enthusiastic about being here. God’s created you and you have a purpose in life. Be excited about it and go out and make things happen.
We’re making things happen today on this podcast by having one of the leading experts of the world, or probably the leading expert on vitamin C in the world, Dr. Thomas Levy, who lives now in Florida. That’s a great place to be, by the way. I know he’s enjoyed it down there. Probably if everything was right, he’d probably be out playing on the golf course today. But instead, I have him in here doing a podcast, so he’s been kind enough to forego his pleasure to help us educate ourselves on vitamin C.
Dr. Levy, let’s start with the background first about yourself. Tell us about yourself. I know that you ended up going to Tulane University Medical School. You did your undergraduate study there. You also did your postgraduate training there in Internal Medicine and then in Cardiology. Then you trained in law in Denver at law school. Tell us, as a cardiologist, how in the world, what made you transfer your attention and transition into more natural approaches to health?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Three words. Dr. Hal Huggins. I don’t know if you’re familiar with him.
Dr. Hotze: For sure, the dentist. Oh, Dr. Huggins warns everybody about the dangers of root canals. Sure, I know Dr. Huggins.
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well, I met Dr. Hal Huggins in Colorado Springs in 1993. I had had a cardiology practice for about six or seven years. We got to talking and he said “come by my clinic.” Now, I had, had an incident at the hospital that really got me, I decided to leave that hospital. I had such a distaste in my mouth, but in so doing I immediately lost 60% of my practice. That’s how bad a scenario it was. What that did was in life, I’ve found every good thing is preceded by something bad that pushes you in a direction you would never have gone before.
Just about the same time my cardiology practice went down 60%, I had time on my hands. Along came Dr. Huggins, he says, “Come to my clinic and see what we’re doing.” Well, I saw things at his clinic I’ve never seen anywhere before in my life. I saw diseases get better that aren’t supposed to get better. I saw some diseases resolve that aren’t supposed to resolve. I even saw some multiple sclerosis patients taking a few hesitant steps for the first time in years. In particular, I saw this one incredibly sick patient getting hours of excruciating dental work, all types, extractions and everything else. The type of the things that puts a college kid to bed for a week when they get their wisdom teeth taken out, you know?
This lady, after the dental work, looked more energetic than you can imagine! I said man, something’s not right here. I said, “What’s going on, Hal?” He pointed at the IV bag. I said, “Okay, IV bag. I’ve done IVs all my life.” He said, “It’s what’s in it that counts.” I said, “Okay, you got me. How much? What’s going on?” He said, “There’s 50 grams of Vitamin C in that IV bag.” It infused continuously throughout the dental work and ended up after the dental work was completed. I’m not trying to pat myself on the back, but personally I never try to deny the truth of something that I personally witness. There was no way to undo that observation. No way to go into denial. No way to say well, it’s just whatever it is. From that day on my work and my research with vitamin C started.
Dr. Hotze: Well, that’s absolutely an incredible story about your meeting with Hal Huggins. The point you make is that when you see somebody resolve signs, symptoms of a disease that they have with a treatment that you’ve never heard about before, you immediately think something’s going on here. Let me give you a quick example of that, Dr. Levy.
I follow Julian Whitaker. I got into natural approaches to health very similar to the way you did. You had an adversity. You lost your, for one reason or another, you ended up leaving the hospital and lost 60% of your practice. Well, that’s not, you know, that’s loss of income and that’s big, you know, “what am I going to do next?” That’s what you’re asking yourself. We believe that in every adversity there’s a seed of equal or greater benefit. My dad had a heart problem in ’89, and after he had, had a blown angioplasty and an emergency bypass surgery. Getting out of the hospital weeks later he called me over to the house, had me read one of Dr. Whitaker’s newsletters, Julian Whitaker, who I know you know out in California. Dr. Whitaker talked about heart disease. His ultimate conclusion was don’t let the doctors invade your body. If all you do after a heart attack is eat correctly, lose weight, exercise, take vitamins and minerals, you’re going to do well. You only have a 1% chance of dying. Everything else increases your risk of dying if you let the doctors invade your body.
Dad asked what I thought. I said, “Dad, I don’t know. I wish we’d have tried this.” He said, “Well, this doctor says I need vitamins. What do I need to take?” I looked at my dad like a deer in headlights and I said, “Dad, I’m a doctor. What do I know about vitamins?” He said, “Son, will you find out?” I said, “Yes sir, I will.” I was the oldest of eight, seven boys. I did. Now I have a multi-million dollar vitamin store. Hotze Vitamins here, and I didn’t know about vitamins. I was never taught anything. I started to study and learn about vitamins.
Out of my father’s adversity, just like out of your adversity, it led me down a different path. When you went to Hal Huggins and saw this happen, guess what, you said I’ve got to try it. I mean, it worked here. If it worked on that patient, maybe it’ll work on my patients, as well. That’s what I did with my dad. When I got my dad healthy and well you know, and he had congestive heart failure, and he did great. Once I got him on vitamins and minerals and got him on his hormones and all that, he did wonderful in his 70s up to 80. It was a great experience for that. It was out of that when I learned, out of that I followed Dr. Whitaker and he wrote an article about natural hormones. One of the chapters in his book on natural hormones was about progesterone. I’d never heard about it before. Of course I knew about it just from biochemistry, but I’d never heard of it as a treatment.
Dr. John Lee had written this book about it and I found out about progesterone. As a matter of fact, after I read Dr. Whitaker’s book, Treatment With Natural Hormones, and his chapter on progesterone, I walked into my office the next day. At the end of the afternoon I came back to see my first guest patient. It was Laura Steel, who’s been on our radio program before so I can mention her name. She said, “Dr. Hotze, would you like to hear what Dr. Lee has to say about progesterone?” I said, “I’d love to. I just read about it last night.”
There’s an old adage, you’ve heard it, when the student is ready the teacher does arrive. That’s what happened with you and Hal Huggins. When you were ready, the teacher arrived. It was Hal Huggins and it was John Lee for me. I got his number serendipitously, called him on the phone next day and said, “Where do I get this progesterone?” He said, “Get it in compounding pharmacy.” I said, “What’s a compounding pharmacy?” And he told me. Now, I own a compounding pharmacy here at the Hotze Health & Wellness Center and we compound our own progesterone.
Out of my dad’s adversity, out of your adversity, you found a different pathway. This is what I found most physicians, in fact, every physician I’ve ever talked to that does natural approaches to health, either had a personal problem themselves, a family member had a problem, and that is what pointed them in the direction of the natural approaches to health. I gave you my story just as a confirmation of how this works, folks. When the student is ready, the teacher will arrive. The teacher arrived for Dr. Levy. Where did that take you? You saw this dental patient do extremely well after this dental procedure was done having been on vitamin C during the procedure. What did you do with that information?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well, let me say this before I go to that. You’re talking about destiny and feelings and things turning in your life. A full three or four months before any of this happened, I was sitting in my cardiology office, wasn’t seeing a patient at the time, and I just had this overwhelming feeling that you know, cardiology is fine and good but this isn’t what I want to do the rest of my life. I need to be doing something else I just don’t know what it is. That was my mindset when all of this happened.
But since that happened, when I first saw what the vitamin C did, then Dr. Huggins asked me to be a consultant in his clinic. Ironically enough, the consultative position paid me better than the cardiology did. I didn’t suffer at all economically. I saw a lot of stuff. Hal was an expert on laboratory and diet and the things that would normalize when you took certain supplements. I would see the patients in an initial consultation. But even more significantly, I would do telephone follow-ups with them for one or two or three months or more after they left the clinic. Then you’d really see the dramatic improvements in biochemical tests and everything else as time went on.
Then somewhere about six months into it, I also saw Dr. Huggins have a lawyer on retainer. I said, “My God, you’re a healthcare practitioner and you have a lawyer on retainer.” That was because you’re a target. It was a crazy intuition but I just decided that I got a lot of time on my hands, I’ve got enough money, I think I’ll get a law degree. That was my entire motivation. I look at the law books now and I have no idea how I did it. I mean, they just have so zero interest for me now but hey, when you have the passion at the right point and time that’s all you need.
Dr. Hotze: Right.
Dr. Thomas Levy: Three years later I became an attorney and the degree has been useful. Not in the sense of having clients, but just in terms of my writing, in terms of a lot of philosophies and we’re getting a lot more into medical legal issues now than we ever did before. Because amongst other things, and this might represent a future book, I don’t know, that’s going to be entitled something along the lines of Negligent Manslaughter. Your doctor doesn’t have a right to kill you. Which is when the doctor denies a family intravenous vitamin C in the intensive care unit for anything and they die a day or two later, that’s as clear cut manslaughter possible homicide as I can think of.
Stacey: You’re friend…
Dr. Hotze: Let me give you a quick example on that. I have a very good friend of mine whose wife had suffered from ITP, which is Idiopathic Thrombocytopenic Purpura, for our listening audience. Years back. Had been hospitalized and had developed lung infections, pseudomonas in the lungs and had been really debilitated. She was in the hospital for gosh, and had been sick for several years. She got out and still had the problem and her lungs had been severely damaged by the pseudomonas infection and was still growing out pseudomonas out of her lungs. She ended up going back into the hospital and was in the hospital for a year in ICU care.
I would go by and visit. He’s a good friend of mine and she had been a good friend and they were older in their 70s. I guess she was even in her early 80s. Anyway, I’d go by and visit them regularly in the hospital. Finally, I was on my way out of town one day, I was traveling with some of my staff to a conference in San Diego. On the way to the airport I called up to see how my friend’s wife was doing and he said, “I think she’s going to go today. I think that’s it. She’s in [inaudible] right now.” I had my driver stop, take me to the hospital and I went to meet with him. I said, “For crying out loud,” to my friend. “She needs, she’s got scurvy. She needs to be on vitamin C. Look at her. She needs it.” I’d been telling him this for weeks. She’s got to get some vitamin C. Got to have vitamin C because her skin was peeling off. It was scurvy, you know? It was obvious to any unbiased observer.
He would talk to the hospitalists there. “No,” it was a woman doctor, “no, we’re not going to do that. We don’t know if it would work. We don’t know how it would affect the drugs she’s on.” Finally, I said to my friend, “You’ve got to get them in, you’ve got to get her on vitamin C.” Well, long story short. I left, I thought it was over. This was on a Thursday and I was sure when I came back it would be over. Well, I come back and she’s still alive. As a matter of fact, I go visit her on Monday and she’s sitting in bed talking to me. I said, “What in the world happened?” Now, she had been growing out three different bacteria from her large intestines. Bacteroides and several others. She had sepsis. She had three different bacterias she was growing in her blood. I mean, she’s a goner. The chances of her surviving are slim and none, especially with her long-term health problems.
Anyway, he said, “I finally convinced the doctor to use vitamin C. They gave her an IV of vitamin C and she perked up.” I mean, it was incredible. Now, since the long and short, she’s passed away several years back. Now this goes back four years ago when that happened, but anyway, she survived that and survived another six or eight months. Now, she should have been on regular doses of IV vitamin C and they would bring it to her and they would grind it up because the hospital wouldn’t give it to her. They’d have to take the caplets and grind it up and give it to her in water so she could take it by mouth. Believe it or not, that’s how backwards things are.
A week after she recovered from being on deaths bed with IV vitamin C, Dr. Marik out of Virginia came out, is it Marik who came out with this article and it was 2017, he was an ICU specialist and he was treating individuals with sepsis with antibiotics. There was a 40% death rate and he decided to put them on IV vitamin C, cortisol and thiamine and he reduced the death rate to 8%.
Dr. Hotze: Yes, that was Dr. Marik. You know who I’m talking about. It was written up in Chess Magazine.
Dr. Thomas Levy: Yes, Dr. Paul Marik out of Virginia.
Dr. Hotze: Right, and so my friend calls me up and says, “You can’t believe what I saw on TV.” This is the same week. “This doctor out of Virginia did exactly what you’ve been saying we needed to do. He’s using IV vitamin C and there are patients that are getting well.” I said, “Well, that’s exactly what happens with vitamin C and my friend Dr. Tom Levy has written about this. He’s written about how doctors all the way back to Dr. Klenner and on and on have used vitamin C literally for decades to heal viral illness and other infectious disease illnesses.” That’s what needs to be done but you know, you can’t get…
Here, listen to this. This is so telling. This lady friend of mine and her husband, she’s in the hospital dying. Takes the vitamin C and survives, okay? My friend was talking to the hospital ICU specialist later and it’s a woman doctor and she didn’t like the fact that they gave her vitamin C. She didn’t like that at all. He said, “Well, doctor, if you were on death’s bed like my wife was, would you take IV vitamin C?” She said, “No, I wouldn’t.” Can you imagine that?
Stacey: That sounds so ignorant.
Dr. Hotze: This is the way the medical profession is. If it’s not in a medical book and they didn’t think of it, they’ve so bought into the box that they protect themselves from natural approaches to health that will not only improve people’s health but also improve their immune system, literally cure them. That’s right, the word cure. It will cure them if they’re given the appropriate…we know that, for crying out loud. You look at scurvy. Scurvy killed millions of sailors as they sailed the seas from the 1500s to 1800s when finally doctor, I guess it was Linden, what was his name? The doctor in Scotland.
Dr. Thomas Levy: James Lind.
Dr. Hotze: Pardon me?
Dr. Thomas Levy: James Linden?
Dr. Hotze: Yes, Dr. Linden in Scotland came up with treatment of scurvy using limes and citrus juice. He healed all these Navy patients that had scurvy. Well, scurvy will kill you. That’s not having enough vitamin C, it will kill you. It cures. Vitamin C cures scurvy which is a fatal disease in the end point. Vitamin C and other vitamins have been used to cure diseases. Now, we believe that in high doses it can cure a host of other diseases.
We’re talking with Dr. Thomas Levy who’s a specialist on that. Dr. Levy, tell us about how we found vitamin C initially to begin with. That was Dr. Szent-Gyorgyi, and I’m not sure I’m pronouncing that right, got a Nobel prize in 1937 on discovering vitamin C. Tell us about that and then how vitamin C came to be used by Dr. Klenner and others and you and how you’ve used it and what kind of results you’ve had in using IV vitamin C.
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well, I think it was Dr. Szent-Gyorgyi is how they pronounced it, but he not only discovered vitamin C, it’s an interesting little story. He hated paprika and he didn’t like the peppers that the paprika were made of and his wife would be always giving him paprika. Somewhere along the line in doing his studies on vitamin C found that paprika had a high concentration of vitamin C. He rapidly took all the peppers out of the house and he used them for harvesting vitamin C and never had to have paprika again. He ended up getting the Nobel prize for that, but the person that really deserved the Nobel prize in my humble opinion, was Dr. Klenner.
Dr. Hotze: Right.
Dr. Thomas Levy: Somehow, and I’ve talked to some people that knew Klenner and I never can get a clear cut answer, how do you go from taking something that’s never been given to anybody before and not only giving them a dose of it on a regular basis, giving them an astronomical dose. Somewhere along the line, he just decided that 10, 20, 30, 40 gram administration intravenously would cure polio, measles, mumps, all the viral infectious diseases and many bacterial diseases, as well.
He also, in the same fashion, found out that vitamin C was the ultimate anti-toxin. For this, that might seem strange to some people, but not when you realize that all a toxin is, is something that causes a pro-oxidant or oxidating effect. That’s how a toxin exerts its toxicity by oxidizing a biomolecule.
Dr. Hotze: Let me stop right there. Folks, oxidizing is like rust. You leave your bicycle out in the weather and all of the sudden the rim of the bicycle or the bicycle itself gets all that rust on it. That’s oxidation. That’s what happens in cells when they’re oxidized. Vitamin C is an anti-oxidant. Go ahead.
Dr. Thomas Levy: It turns out, that that’s all any toxins does. You have different toxins that have different affects because they have different chemical configurations and go into different tissues. But the entirety of disease is oxidized biomolecules. This is why vitamin C is such a broad spectrum agent. Wherever there is oxidized biomolecules, vitamin C can reduce them, give them electrons again and restore their normal function. It’s the restoration of the normal function of a previously oxidized biomolecule that results in any positive clinical response to anything.
Klenner got these principles down very well and then probably late in Dr. Klenner’s life and career along comes Dr. Linus Pauling who was certainly not a clinician but an extraordinarily brilliant person. He, with his book, I can’t remember the whole name. How to live longer, live better, et cetera.
Dr. Hotze: Yes.
Dr. Thomas Levy: He got widespread notoriety, if you will, for vitamin C. Him, along with Irwin Stone. Irwin Stone wrote a book similar to mine that actually I modeled mine after and just updated all the research where he looked at vitamin C and all the different diseases, all the different infections and all the data. It was Irwin Stone that got Dr. Pauling interested. Dr. Pauling spread the message to the world, then along comes Dr. Hugh Riordan of the Riordan Clinic in Wichita, that starts giving huge amounts. Somebody who’s not recognized but had a big role in this because he knew Klenner personally, he knew Stone personally, he had frequent chats with Pauling, is Dr. Charles Mary of New Orleans. He used vitamin C for 40 years in the same way that Dr. Klenner did. I considered him after Pauling, then Dr. Riordan, Dr. Cathcart and currently at the Riordan Clinic, Dr. Hunninghake. To me, that’s your sequence of clinical vitamin C pioneers.
Dr. Hotze: You’re in that too, sir. You’re in that list of a vitamin C pioneers. You are. You’ve done wonderful work and you’ve promoted this. Let’s talk about your use and your clinical practice of vitamin C. How does this work out in a practical sense? By the way, here at the Hotze Health & Wellness Center we do have an IV room and we do use IV vitamin C and we use Myers Cocktails. We use NAD, we use Glutathione. We have ozone therapy, as well as stem cell exosomes. We use all these in our therapeutic approaches with our patients.
I want to do a whole lot more, especially with vitamin C. Let’s talk about your use of vitamin C particularly with viral illnesses. What experience can you share with us about that?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well, two of the more noteworthy occasions was a couple of college students at one time or another came in with infectious mononucleosis. Their disease had been so chronic and so progressive that after several months they had to drop out of college. Incredibly enough, not that we didn’t suspect this would be the case, but just after two infusions of vitamin C one day and the next day, they were fine.
I had another fellow out of Boulder, Colorado that came in with West Nile virus and elevated liver enzymes. Everybody thought it’s a horrible hepatitis, this, that or the other. Same thing, two or three days of intravenous vitamin C, his liver enzymes came down to normal and he completely eliminated having the West Nile virus completely. Basically, that’s the case with vitamin C and a virus. Vitamin C is what I call an absolute virucide. It will destroy any virus that it comes in contact with. In the medical literature that’s what it has done. There has never been a virus against which vitamin C has been tested where it has not completely neutralized and/or broken down the structure of the virus. Surprise, surprise, that’s the same thing we’re seeing with the Coronavirus now. In New York, in China…
Dr. Hotze: Singapore, South Korea, all these have used it.
Dr. Thomas Levy: All these places.
Dr. Hotze: Right.
Dr. Thomas Levy: It’s an absolute virus. It will bail you out every time unless you just start the therapy when the patient is already too close to death.
Dr. Hotze: Now, talk about the doses that you would use. If somebody came in with the flu, or somebody came in and they had the Coronavirus, what is your protocol going to be with that? What would you recommend in those kind of patients?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well, I’ll be honest. My philosophy and my approach has changed a lot since Dr. Marik’s work because of he used, what we consider to be a very tiny amount of vitamin C.
Dr. Hotze: He did. I know that.
Dr. Thomas Levy: 1.5 grams every six hours. But, the big thing is every six hours. We give 50 grams up all at once and it’s out of the body in two or three hours. When you give something every six hours you keep a level of vitamin C in the blood.
Dr. Hotze: Even more important than keeping that level in the blood, there’s even a better level within the cells. That’s where you want to keep that vitamin C level elevated, in the cells. You have to have it elevated in the blood at a good level to get it in the cells. Remember folks, it’s in the cells that vitamin C does its work. All the vitamins do their work within the cells of the body. The blood is simply a transport mechanism to get the important vitamins, minerals and nutrients into your cells so your cells can produce energy within the mitochondria, the power of the cells. You produce electrical energy so you drive all the bowel chemical process so your organs work well. That’s what it does. Go ahead.
Dr. Thomas Levy: My practical approach, if it were me and I had a physician, a friend who would give me whatever I want, I would take 25 grams every six hours. That would be my approach, okay? For 100 grams a day. Now, even today, there are physicians who want to use vitamin C but the super big doses scare them. A really practical approach, I think, would be for most patients to be on 10 grams every six hours. I think that will give fantastic coverage. I might add that Dr. Marik’s study, he added the hydrocortisone and the thiamine not necessary. They reproduced the same study, actually, they didn’t reproduce it. It was before Dr. Marik’s study where they did the same thing in Iran, of all places, and cure patients of sepsis with the same percentage that Marik did using just about, I think it was two grams of vitamin C every six hours.
The thing is, in sepsis you have a natural elevation of the cortisol level trying to compensate for the oxidation of the cortisol receptors. Obviously, you can’t compensate for a cortisol receptor being oxidized, it has to be reduced to function again. You give a little vitamin C, you reduce the receptors, the hydrocortisone binds them and then you come out of the syndrome fairly quickly.
Dr. Hotze: Which is what we recommend now for anybody that has flu or a viral type illness, or if you even thought you might have the Coronavirus, what we would recommend is vitamin C. Here’s what I’ve done with people that are concerned about their health, especially with this current Coronavirus situation. One thing, Dr. Levy, I have seen on TV, none of the government paid health bureaucrats, none of the conventional medicine gurus, surely none of the media, none of the politicians have recommended people taking charge of their health and building up and strengthening their own immune system. All they have is reaction towards this virus.
By the way, this virus to date, pales in significance to the annual damage the flu virus causes worldwide. Every year on an average according to the WHO, World Health Organization, approximately 650,000 people die of the flu or flu related illness every year in the United States. It is average 50,000 a year. That turns out to be somewhere around 300 people a day, from October 1st to the end of March, would die of the flu. But we don’t want to say anything about that. Nobody stopped work, nobody closes down the churches or schools because of the flu, but now we have the Coronavirus which doesn’t have near, although I’m not saying the Coronavirus is not real. Obviously, if you have the virus and you’re in one of the risk categories. If you’re elderly, infirmed, debilitated, you have congestive heart failure, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, diabetes, or obesity, a host of other health problems, yes, you could be susceptible and have a severe case.
The vast majority of people, 98 or 99%, will not have that. 10% might have severe problems. 90% won’t have any. 25% get the disease, they’re asymptomatic. The other 65% have mild to moderate symptoms. That’s just the way it is, but it’s with the elderly. What I have recommended for those…now, the people at our center, here at the Hotze Health & Wellness Center, we have strong doses of vitamins and minerals. I’ve been on 55 radio programs across the country in the last three weeks. Here’s what I tell them: “Take charge of your health, folks.” Don’t just think oh, I can wash my hands and stay away from everybody else and keep living like I’m living with bad eating habits and no vitamins and minerals and nutrients and expect to stay healthy.
First, change your eating habits. Eat healthy. Eat whole foods and eliminate the simple carbs which convert to sugar and suppress the immune system and create inflammation. At least now, during this time of year during the flu season or the winter season when people tend to get ill. Then, take vitamins and minerals. Here’s what I recommend: A, B, C, D and Z. A, B, C, D and Z and probiotics. I have an immune pack, Dr. Hotze’s Immune Pak, that I started three weeks ago. The reason I did this, doctor, is because people were, after I’d been on these radio programs and I’ve been on them from San Diego to Long Island, from Portland, Oregon all the way down to Miami…Minneapolis, you name it, I’ve been all over the country. Every time I’m on they call up my vitamin store, Hotze Vitamins, wanting to know what they needed to take, so I created Dr. Hotze’s Immune Pak. I’ve got vitamin A, B Complex in it, I’ve got 6,000 of C, I’ve got 10,000 IU of D, I’ve got zinc 30 mg and I’ve got probiotics in that as a building block to build up your immune system.
But when I talked about that on Fox News, I was on Fox News on March 15th, that was on Sunday on the Coronavirus pandemic update, and I said just what I said here. You can’t depend upon anybody but yourself to improve your health. I recommended vitamin and mineral supplementation. They looked at me like I was cross-eyed. I had some other doctor on that said well this isn’t going to help. Believe it or not, two days ago in Houston, two days ago I have a good friend of mine that has a…Sam Malone who’s got a radio program in Houston, Texas. He had on the Director of the FDA. I believe his name is Gotlieb, that may have been the last Director. I’m talking about the FDA Director who comes from Houston, he’s a Radiologist, he was at MD Anderson and he was the administrator there and he ended up going with the FDA.
He’s interviewing about the Coronavirus with this doctor. He said, “Well, doctor, what about,” and this is Sam Malone, said to this doctor, the head of the FDA, “What about building up your immune system?” He said, “Hotze, I sounded like you. Why don’t we take vitamin A, B, C, D and Z, doctor, and build up the immune system?” You know what he said? “There’s no proof that any of that helps.” That’s what he said. That’s the head of the FDA. I said, “Sam, do you have that on tape?” He said, “I didn’t tape it.” I said, “How do you not tape your radio program? I’d love to have that on tape.” But that’s what he related to me.
Anyway, that’s what I’m recommending, and probably people ought to take magnesium on top of that, no question about it, and I always recommend somewhere between 600 and 1,000 mg a day. If you get loose stools, back up on some. You can’t overdose on magnesium, you can’t overdose on vitamin C. Those are water soluble and your body will use them and get rid of them. Always take those things on an intermittent basis so you keep good blood levels.
Hydrogen Peroxide Nebulization
Dr. Thomas Levy: Let me add a little something there that might seem off topic but I would say is right on topic, especially with regard to Coronavirus and general health. I have found, and I’m continuing to see, that nearly anybody who does this never progresses with their virus. They don’t progress to a cold. They don’t progress to the flu. They don’t progress to Coronavirus. That’s hydrogen peroxide nebulization.
Dr. Hotze: I’ve heard about this. Talk about that. I’ve heard that. That’s very interesting.
Dr. Thomas Levy: The thing that happens with any respiratory virus, which Coronavirus is one and it particularly likes to go down directly into the lungs, is that even when you have a large amount of virus throughout your body, the severity of your illness is largely due to how rapidly you’re continuing to multiply the virus in the sinus, nose, throat and upper respiratory track. Hydrogen peroxide, hey, you put it on an open wound, you sterilize the wound. Well guess what? When you inhale a mist of it in a nebulized type fashion it does two things.
Number one, these bugs in your throat always have biofilms, so they don’t respond to antibiotics. They’re blocked from it and a lot of people just keep chronic colonizations. Not cold, not flu, colonizations, even though they’re not actively infected. The peroxide destroys the biofilm then it immediately destroys the pathogens. When you do that I like to say you lob the head off the viral snake.
Dr. Hotze: This is a really key point you’re making. In the nebulizer, we can get a nebulizer. I presume you can get it at Walgreens or CVS or any pharmacy, right?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well, I don’t know about the pharmacies. You can get them on Amazon, but I’ve been talking about this enough for the last month or two there’s quite a wait now for them so they’ve gotten low on nebulizers.
Dr. Hotze: Okay, so how much, what type of hydrogen peroxide do you use? Can you just buy a bottle of hydrogen peroxide? Is that food grade and how much do you use? How do you mix it in your nebulizer?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Food grade would be best, 3%, for long term use. I’ve found, for me, it works out well as a lifestyle to keep things normal. On the other hand, when availability is not there or you see it’s going to take a couple of weeks to get the food grade online, absolutely use regular hydrogen peroxide, 50 cents for a pint from Walmart.
Dr. Hotze: What percent is that hydrogen peroxide in that?
Dr. Thomas Levy: 3%. What you can do, I have found for myself that when you start with already a significant cold and congestion, 3% is very easily tolerable and works quickly. Now as you have less and less infection, the 3% can cause some burning and irritation and it’s perfectly fine to dilute it 50/50 with water or dilute it 25/75 water or even 20/80 with water and you’ll get the same positive effect. It’s good to try to use the maximal concentration up to 3% that you can that way you get a quick resolution.
Dr. Hotze: Let me ask you, if you buy the hydrogen peroxide bottle over the counter at CVS or Walgreens is it 3%?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Yes.
Dr. Hotze: Okay, good. In the nebulizer there’s a little container to put it in, right?
Dr. Thomas Levy: That’s correct.
Dr. Hotze: How much do you put in? How much would you say? 1cc? 2cc? 3cc? How much?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well a good amount. You don’t even need to necessarily nebulize the whole thing. If you’re doing it for preventative measures, five minutes is good. If you’re dealing with something you already have, 15 minutes a couple of times a day. But just for prophylaxis and keeping yourself well, five minutes with about four or five cc’s.
Dr. Hotze: That’s a great, great suggestion. My fellow physician here who works with me, my associate at the Hotze Health & Wellness Center, Dr. Don Ellsworth, had mentioned that to me yesterday, so that’s very fascinating. I appreciate your suggestion.
Well, we’ve been visiting with Dr. Levy. Dr. Levy is a wonderful advocate for natural approaches to health, particularly the use of vitamin C and other vitamin and mineral supplements, but particularly vitamin C. He’s written numerous books. He’s got Magnesium Reversing Disease, Hidden Epidemic, The Toxic Tooth: How a Root Canal Could be Making You Sick, Death by Calcium, Primal Panacea, which would be about vitamin C, Curing The Incurable, about vitamin C, Stop America’s Number #1 Killer, which is heart disease, which you can do using vitamin C.
Dr. Pauling wrote about that, Dr. Matthias Rath, Why Animals Don’t Get Heart Attacks, is good on that. Uninformed Consent. He’s written numerous books. You can go to what website to find your work, Dr. Levy?
Dr. Thomas Levy: That’d be peakenergy.com.
Dr. Hotze: Peak, p-e-a-k?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Right. Correct.
Dr. Hotze: Peakenergy.com, or you can find his books on Amazon. What about on YouTube? Just YouTube Dr. Thomas Levy?
Dr. Thomas Levy: Well, yes. I don’t know how many. There must be 50 videos on YouTube. It seems like every time I do a conference, I don’t load up anything on YouTube, but they’ll ask for the rights to promote it, I say fine, so they end up putting it online. I’ll tell you what, 10 years ago I would get an email and it says, “Dr. Levy, I’ve read all your books. Let me ask you this question?” Today it’s, “Dr. Levy, I’ve seen all your YouTube videos, let me ask you a question.”
Dr. Hotze: Well listen, doctor you’ve done a remarkable work in bringing the benefits of vitamin C to the general public. As you say, it’s not just good enough to discover these, you’ve got to promote them so people adopt this. For you out there in the listening audience, you’re listening to a wonderful doctor in Dr. Levy who’s done a tremendous job in promoting natural approaches to health. Get his book Curing The Incurable. Use vitamin C. I recommend, I’m sure Dr. Levy will agree with this, 1,000 mg per 25 pounds of body weight. That means if you weigh 150 pounds you take 6,000 mg a day in divided doses. Either two or three times a day, you take 2 of 3,000 mg either twice or three times a day. If you weigh 200 pounds, you take 8,000 mg a day in divided doses.
Now, let me remind you. We didn’t talk about this. We need vitamin C, folks, because for some reason in God’s providence He doesn’t let us make it. All the other mammals and all the other vertebrates in God’s creation with the exception of monkeys and guinea pigs and some weird bat in South America don’t make vitamin C. All the rest of the mammals and all the rest of the vertebrates make their own vitamin C equivalent to 1,000 mg per 25 pounds of body weight. When they’re under stress they will double or triple their vitamin C amount. That’s the reason Dr. Matthias Rath wrote his book Why Animals Don’t Get Heart Attacks, But People Do. Because they have plenty of vitamin C. So vitamin C is very, very important for the prevention of heart disease.
Dr. Thomas Levy: We now have a supplement based on the discovery in 2017 from olive leaf extract where it does appear you can undo the genetic defect and start synthesizing your own vitamin C. We’ve done several studies on it. Obviously, we’re getting close to being out of time. I would call formula 216. The website is formula216.com. Fascinating information.
Dr. Hotze: Formula216.com on taking a supplement that allows you now to convert glucose to vitamin C.
Dr. Thomas Levy: That is correct.
Dr. Hotze: That is fascinating.
Stacey: Fascinating, absolutely.
Dr. Hotze: Well, Dr. Levy, thank you and God bless you in your work.
Stacey: And if you want to find out more about natural approaches to health you can always call us at 281-698-8698. That’s 281-698-8698. You can go to our website hotzehwc.com. That’s h-o-t-z-e hwc.com, or hotzevitamins.com where we carry all of our supplements including vitamin C. That’s hotze, h-o-t-z-e vitamins.com. Thank you for joining us here today at Dr. Hotze’s Wellness Revolution.