Dr Sherry Rogers on the “7 Ms”of Chronic Disease

October 29, 2018

We are exposed to over 84,000 chemicals that are present in everyday life. It is no coincidence that our nation leads the world in chronic disease. Dr. Hotze and the leading national toxicology expert and world-renowned author, Dr. Sherry Rogers, discuss the causes of chronic disease and how our toxic environment contributes to a decline in our nation’s health.

Podcast Transcription:

Stacey: Welcome to Dr. Hotze’s Wellness Revolution. I am Stacey Bandfield, here with Dr. Steven Hotze, founder of the Hotze Health &Wellness Center. As always, if you have not yet downloaded our podcast or maybe you have, it’s been a while. You can always go to hotzepodcast.com , that’s H-O-T-Z-E podcast.com.

Stacey: Okay. We have a great guest on today, so great we invited her back. She’s been on our radio program before. Now she’s been on our podcasts, so pleased to have Dr. Sherry Rogers back on line with us.

Dr. Hotze: We are also glad Dr. Rogers is a board certified member of the American Board of Environmental Medicine. She’s also a Fellow of the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology and a Fellow of the American College of Nutrition. She’s also a member of the Board of the American Family Practice Society. She’s been in solo practice for at least nearly 40 years. She originally was in Syracuse, now she operates out of Carolina, right?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: And Florida. We play tennis every day.

Stacey: Very nice.

Dr. Hotze: When it gets cold in South California, they go to Florida.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Right.

Dr. Hotze: People from up east go to South California when it gets cold. South California is a beautiful state. Anyway, she’s written numerous books:

The High Blood Pressure Hoax,

The Cholesterol Hoax

Detoxify or Die

No More Heartburn

Pain Free in Six Weeks

Wellness Against All Odds Newsletter

You can find her by going to prestigepublishing.com, P-R-E-S-T-I-G-E, prestigepublishing.com to order her books.

Dr. Hotze: How many books do you have? Thirty?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: No, 15 but 30 years of newsletters. I’m a junkie, a reference junkie, so everything that I say, we have a scientific backup someplace in the past 15 books and 30 years of the newsletter.

Dr. Hotze: I first heard Dr. Rogers at the Pan American Allergy Society in San Antonio in 1990, I believe it was. She was teaching at that time on detoxification. Detoxify or Die, that was her…was that your first book?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: No. The first one was the EI Syndrome: How to…

Dr. Hotze: …Environmental Illness Syndrome which plays into Detoxify or Die. Anyway, she’s had a profound impact on me because I read her books, Don’t Let your Cardiologist Poison You to Death, and a bunch of other books that I have here. I even keep them at my bedside table. Before I go to bed, I’m just going to read some…they’re all underlined. I appreciate, you’ve really had an impact on my life and I’m very grateful to you for all you do. We wanted to visit today about chronic diseases and the major causes of chronic diseases. Now, when we think of chronic diseases folks…by the way, let me go back and just remind you, our listeners, what I do believe and I’m sure Dr. Rogers would share this belief. I believe that you and everyone needs a doctor and a staff of professionals who have the know-how and the ability to be able coach you unto a path of health and wellness, naturally, without the use of pharmaceutical drugs, so that as you mature, you’re full of energy. You have vivid figure, you have get up and go, you have life, you have enthusiasm and you enjoy getting up every day. That’s what we want for you, and if that makes sense to you, you’re tuned in today to the right podcast because the doctor that really best exemplifies teaching, training and coaching not only to her patients but to other physicians on how to help people obtain and maintain health and wellness naturally, it’s Dr. Sherry Rogers.

We’re visiting with her today and I’m asking her questions about chronic diseases and what we think about chronic diseases. I’m sure we’re going to be talking about high blood pressure, kidney disorders, diabetes, coronary artery disease, Alzheimer’s disease, degenerative arthritis and a host of other chronic problems that people get as they walk through their lives. These are primarily diseases of late middle and older age. This is when people have these problems but they’ve been developing over a lifetime caused by bad habits and, frankly, by the toxins of pharmaceutical drugs. We’re going to talk about the chronic diseases and the main causes of chronic disease. I’m going to throw it open to you, Dr. Rogers.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, thank you so much for all the kind comments. Just so folks know what we’re talking about, like you said, chronic disease is really anything from depression and opioid addiction, to arthritis, Alzheimer’s, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart attacks, atrial fib, cancers, thyroid.  It doesn’t matter what it is, what the label is, what matters is what caused it.

I’m going to go through the seven, I’ve given a lot of thought to this because I was trying to figure out the most practical ways that people could reduce their risk and reduce their symptoms once they get the diseases, and so I’ve made it into what I call the Seven Ms,  because all seven of these major sins begin with an M.  In case folks think chronic disease is not a big deal in the United States, we lead the world in it. In terms of the most expensive medical system care on the planet earth, we are number one. In terms of the best medical care and the least chronic disease, we are not number one, number two, three or number 43. We are so bad that you could live in 42 other countries and have a better health than you do in the United States. When I get done with the 7 Ms, the seven major reasons that have destroyed the United States’ people’s health, I think you’ll see why we lead the world.

7 Ms of Chronic Disease

1. Medications

The first M is for Medications. For example, prescriptions things like statins actually guarantee you will get Alzheimer’s because they poison the HMG-CoA reductase enzyme that makes coenzyme Q10. It’s sort of the currency of energy in the body. Plus, it poisons cholesterol which you have to have. In order to remember what I said two seconds ago, you have to make new memory. The only way you can do it is with multiple different chemical pathways which include cholesterol.

Statin drugs, there are many other prescription things, but as an example of a non-prescription drug that can do just as much damage, the NSAIDs: Aleve, ibuprofen, all that stuff, Advil, that everybody is sucking down before their tennis games. These are actually a major cause of high blood pressure and the United States leads the world in high blood pressure. One in three adults over 50 now has it.Other things that are deadly that are non-prescription, FDA approved, are the Nexium, the proton pump inhibitors. Nexium, Prilosec, omeprazole. These are considered so safe by the FDA that they don’t require a prescription, and yet they’re so dangerous that they knock out your acids. Do you think your heartburn went away? We wrote the book, No More Heartburn, which tells you how to get rid of your heartburn. If you’re foolish enough to take the proton pump inhibitors, they knock out the acid so that you feel temporarily better, but then you will morph into other diseases because cutting out your acid – you are now inhibiting the absorption of, for example, magnesium.

There are many studies that we’ve referenced in the Total Wellness Newsletter, that as you take more Prilosec or Nexium, you get higher blood pressure, your get atrial fibrillation, you get chronic back pain from muscle spasms, you get depression, you get exhaustion, and then you get the ultimate magnesium deficiency symptom, acute heart attack and you’re dead.

If you don’t have enough magnesium, it doesn’t…I had four specialties and one was Emergency Room. You can sit there and use cardioversion until the cows come home, but if they don’t have enough magnesium in their blood stream, they cannot resurrect the heart.

Dr. Hotze: You know, they only…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: That’s why…

Dr. Hotze: Sure. Dr. Rogers, you know now, in the protocol they don’t even use magnesium anymore, magnesium sulfate.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: I know.

Dr. Hotze: It’s just crazy.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: We actually went through the Practice Guidelines of Cardiologists and the Emergency Room physicians in the last few years of the newsletter. You’re absolutely right, Dr. Hotze, they do not even…if you go there, you are not given heparin often, you are not given magnesium, and you have to have these in order to save a person. In the 2011 Total Wellness Newsletter, we have the evidence and the instructions for those things that people should carry with them at all times in their gym bag, tennis bag, golf bag, in the car, in their purses, everywhere, because if you don’t save your life, two to one, they’re not going to be able to in the Emergency Room. As the Journal of the American Medical Association has recently been showing, the quicker you do these things, like taking care of clots, the better the outcome is, and so there’s no reason why everybody should not be equipped with injectable heparin and magnesium. It has already saved countless lives from our readers and from people extremely close to me. We have the first M as Medications. The next one…

Dr. Hotze: Let me interrupt you and mix in something. The night I graduated from medical school, Dr. Rogers, my father held a banquet for me at the Houston Club downtown. I graduated University of Texas Med School in the Medical Center here in Houston. He holds a banquet for me and over dinner and he turns to me, my father was a very successful entrepreneur in the manufacturing business, he turned to me and he said, “Son,” I said, “Yes sir,” he said, “Don’t poison your patients like all the other doctors do.” He told me that several times over my fist year out of practice and during my internship and when I went into Emergency Medicine. That stuck in me and eventually, it gave root and grew into a tree called the Hotze Health & Wellness Center. In 1989 is when I finally made my break and decided to do natural approaches to health and I haven’t looked back.  But it literally took me probably 10 years, even after being in practice in natural approaches to health, until I finally saw the…I knew how bad drugs were, but until finally, I had washed all the poisonous thoughts out of my mind about pharmaceutical drugs that were in my mind that had been taught in medical school and by all the various representatives. A matter of fact, in the mid 90s after we’ve been in practice about six years here and we did allergy works, we’d see the drugs sales come in with their various inhalers and medication. Finally, I said, “We’re done. I’m not letting any more drug reps come into this office.” In 1994, ’95, we just stopped it cold. Can’t come in.

But anyway, Dr. Rogers is right and my daddy was right, don’t let the doctors poison you! The medication that your doctors are going to give you, every medication that’s a prescription medication and also over-the-counter medications, are toxins. We know they’re toxins because the liver has to detoxify. That means it has to remove the toxin. Well, if they weren’t toxins, the drugs, you wouldn’t have to detoxify them. Then you look up definition of toxify in Webster’s Dictionary and the first definition is poison.

Drugs are poisons and in reality, convince no medicine really believes that they can poison you to good health which doesn’t make a lick of sense.  I don’t care how many double blind studies you do and placebo controlled, drugs are poison and they are dangerous to your health long-term. Now, there may be some instances where you have to intervene for a short period of time with a drug, but if you get yourself on a path of health and wellness now and get on the health highway, which most of you were on right now, you’re on the wrong side of the road getting ready to go over and over pass and get whacked the whole way until you get crippled or worse yet, the family buries you then it would be too late.

Don’t wait until you get crippled before you decide to turn around on the health highway and go the right way. You can do it now and you can prevent the problems she was talking about: needing magnesium and heparin when you go in an Emergency Room. You can prevent getting a heart attack. It’s preventable when you eat in a proper manner and when you take vitamin C, and lysine, and proline, and magnesium. If you load up on fish oils, you load yourself that, you’re not going to get coronary artery disease. If you eat right and keep the sugars out, you won’t have to worry about that.

The time to eat right and the time to take your vitamins and minerals is now before you need it. When you get the problem, it’s going to be too late in many cases, and you’re not going to be able to reverse it anyway. That was my ha-ha hours. Go ahead Dr. Rogers if we can get the…

2. Mercury

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Okay. Our seven major problems, the first one was medications. The next one is Mercury, and lots of folks will say, “Oh, I don’t have any problems with mercury.”        The process to make corn syrup, corn starch, and corn sugar, which are the predominating forms of sweetness in most processed foods is a mercury chlor alkali process. That gives the average person with the average consumption of processed foods with the corn sugar, corn sweetener in it, the equivalent of having one new mercury amalgam in their mouth, “one silver filling” every day of their lives. This leads to leaky gut, autoimmune disease, Alzheimer’s, you name it. The problem is that when they did these studies, Monsanto said with the mercury that…I’m sorry. I’m getting ahead of myself. I’m going into Monsanto now already. I just want to say one more thing about the mercury and that is that when researchers want to create 100 rats with diabetes so they can do experiments with drugs, what do they give them? The mercury chloralkali: corn syrup, corn sugar, and corn starch that’s in all processed foods. They used the very FDA approved food additives or contaminants that are okay for us to actually create rats with diabetes so they can do experiments.

3. Monsanto

Anyway the next seven M, first we had medications and then mercury, is Monsanto, which is a real bugaboo for me because what happens is the Monsanto genetically engineered corn and soy so that they would eliminate various toxins, like the corn puts out the Bt toxin that actually kills the corn borer worm. Monsanto got it passed by the FDA because they said, “Well, it doesn’t kill human cells. It only kills…” Their Roundup, rather. Their Roundup pesticide that contaminates all their foods. It only kills weeds. It does not kill human cells. The problem is that 90% of our bodies is not human cells, it’s gut microbiome and those are damaged by the Roundup, the weed killer that contaminates not only GMO corn and soy which is the majority of all the corn and soy that is in…it’s kind of the backbone of the American diet. Also, it’s the…where am I going with this? I have so many thoughts charging through my mind that I’ve…

Dr. Hotze: Well, we…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: I’m getting tongue tied here.

Dr. Hotze: Well we know this, when she talks about the microbiome, that’s a fancy way of saying the bacteria in your colon, primarily. We do have bacteria that lines our skin, commensal normal healthy bacteria that keeps bad bacteria out. But in your colon, your colon is full of good healthy bacteria like lactobacillus acidophilus. We call that a probiotic, Bifidobacterium. These bacteria are very important in producing some vitamins that are necessary for your health and also the digestion of your food. When you take these various GMO products and other products that have the pesticide Roundup in it, it will kill off the normal bacteria, which will inevitably lead to a yeast overgrowth which causes a host of health problems in your gut. Monsanto has engineered this and they’ve really created a tremendous havoc of poor health in the country through their products and their use of these products.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Yes, one of the problems that I’ve been addressing for quite a while is not only does the Roundup create a deficiency of vitamin D, and that’s epidemic, you can’t heal high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, infection, depression, osteoporosis, etcetera, without enough D, and there’s an epidemic of low D. Part of it could possibly be from the Roundup.

More serious problem is the levels of Roundups or actually the metabolite, glyphosate, are six times higher in Americans than they are in Europeans because there are not rules by the FDA allowing GMO foods into the food culture. The problem is that women who have breast cancers, when they do the biopsies of women whose adenomas were not cancerous versus those that were, the ones who have cancer have seven times the level of Roundup or the glyphosate, the metabolite.

Dr. Hotze: Now where did they measure that? Is that measured in the blood or in the tissue or in the biopsy?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: They are measuring that in the blood and they can also…they’d measure it but then they pair it with whether or not the woman had a positive biopsy or not. The women who had positive biopsies had levels glyphosate seven times higher than the average person. There’s…

Dr. Hotze: The glyphosate, it comes from the product Roundup. In fact, that’s what it is.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: It is on foods, highways, in homes, it’s everywhere. Lawns. People can go to the store today and buy gallons of it and spread it any place they want to. This is all FDA approved. One of the big problems, too, is that which we’ve been working with, it damages the chemistry of an essential amino acid called glycine which is a huge detoxifier, plus it’s a tranquilizer in the brain. It has many uses. Anyway, we’ve gone into a lot of that in the Newsletters.

Dr. Hotze: On the corn and soy GMO, how does that affect the microbiome?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, the corn, for example, makes a Bt toxin to kill the corn borer worm. Anytime you can kill something that’s living, you can also kill your microbiome. In other words…

Dr. Hotze:  get you so…the GMO, the genetically modified corn, now makes an insecticide to kill a borer but it also gets in our system when we eat it and it kills the microbiome?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Right. There’s just so many problems with it that, you want to try to avoid at all cost and take extra glycine because of the chemistry that…I won’t bog you down with…

Dr. Hotze: Right. Well listen. This deal about glyphosate and how it inhibits the production or conversion of cholesterol to vitamin D, is that right?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: It lowers vitamin D, but they’re not quite sure how it does that.

Dr. Hotze: So it may be the reason…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, see. One of the problems is that when …Monsanto was very smart. You don’t get to be a multibillion dollar company without checking everything out. What they did in cancer studies, for example, was they knew how long it would take a rat or a mouse to get cancer. They give the glyphosate in a timeframe that’s just short of that. They can say to the FDA, “Here’s out study and it shows that this does not cause cancer.” Then when they tested the glyphosate, that is one metabolite of Roundup, but what they didn’t test were the “inert ingredients” which are proprietary, and some of those are nastier than the original herbicide. You have a lot of unknowns that are protected under the proprietary inert ingredient label.

Dr. Hotze: Well, it may be that the reason we’ve got such a rampant problem with a low vitamin D levels in all our guests that we see here…they’re all inevitably very, very low, and it maybe that it’s the chemical in our system that we’re getting, maybe it’s from the Roundup, the glyphosate or whatever, are the inert ingredients or something in the environment that’s inhibiting the conversion of cholesterol.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, people are slathering themselves. When I play tennis, women are spraying themselves with sunscreen and, ew, they’re inhaling it and everything. It’s really ludicrous. But anyway, people are inhibiting a lot of sun which is actually used to make electrons in the human body and of course to make vitamin D, so you really don’t want to inhibit it. If you have enough of the right nutrients, beta-carotene, etcetera, you will not make skin cancer. I’m naturally blond, I’m not even gray yet and I play tennis in the high noon for 20 years and I do not wear sunscreen and I’ hardly even have any wrinkles. It’s what is inside the body.

4. Mangled Fats

For the seven M’s that have destroyed U.S. health, we have medications, mercury, Monsanto. The next one is Mangled Fats because the FDA has done what I call legal lying by allowing the average person to eat trans fats even though Harvard researcher showed two decades ago that there is no safe level of trans fats. They have allowed the food manufacturers to put no trans fats on a label if there are less than 500 milligrams of trans fats in the very portion of food that the food manufacturer selected. If it says, “No trans fats,” and it’s two potato chips, then each one could be 250 milligrams for all you know because that’s legal lying as far as I’m concerned. The problem is the trans fats are a huge cause of cardiovascular disease as we showed in the book, Is Your Cardiologist Killing You? When I reviewed the records from people with serious cardiovascular disease, atrial fibrillation around the world, one of the first things I see in a 12 page assay of their blood test is that they’re loaded with trans fats and their cell membranes, which of course are not just in the heart but the brain and everywhere, are literally starving for the right fatty acids and chocked with the wrong ones.

Just by fixing that chemistry and getting them off the trans fats, you can make a dramatic change in diseases that medicine still says have no known cause, no known cure. Look at all the people who have atrial fibrillation and all they have to do is do the oil change that we described in Detoxify or Die, or we described it also in the The High Blood Pressure Hoax and in Is your Cardiologist Killing You, because it’s absolutely fundamental to healing everything, to have the right fats in the cell membrane. That’s where all the messages for whether or not you have cancer, whether or not you fight off any diseases, that’s where all the information comes from. It’s sort of like the computer keyboard. If a person has the wrong fats, they don’t have the right electricity in there, the pores and the channels don’t open properly, that’s why people are on beta blockers, calcium channel blockers. They’re on all sorts of pore blockers because those pores, or those gates that are supposed to open and close millions of times a second in the cell membrane, are no longer functional because they’re bogged down with the wrong fats. These are the fats that are hydrogenated. A lot of them are soybean derived, first of all, so you’ve got all the stuff we talked about with Monsanto on top of the mangled fats or trans fatty acids.

Dr. Hotze: Right. Now, to do an oil change, folks, what you have to do is you have to have fish oil. That’s the best way to do it and you have to have DHA, docosahexaenoic acid and EPA, eicosapentaenoic acid.

Stacey: Say it 10 times fast.

Dr. Hotze: I can’t.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Eicosapentaenoic. Docosahexaenoic.

Stacey: There we go.

Dr. Hotze: You got it.

Stacey: Very impressive.

Dr. Hotze: I’ve got to think about it. You can get that in something very simple. You can get it at a health food store or you can get from Nordic Naturals. That’s cod liver oil. You recommend that, do you doc? Cod liver oil?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Absolutely. Buy a very special one because we’re very particular about…well, since its inception over 25 years ago, there’s a 12 page assay that looks at folks’ vitamins, minerals, fatty acids, amino acids, and organic acids. It’ll show us what’s broken, what has to be fixed in order for them to be well. I reviewed their records from Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, and Cleveland Clinic before I interpret these for them on the phone. The odd thing is that even these best institutes that are supposed to be crème de la crème, they never looked for the cause and the cure. You can see someone with the worst atrial fibrillation with history of paroxysmal ventricular tachycardia with serious angina to people who’ve had heart attacks, do you think I’ve ever even see an RBC magnesium? If there is a mag, it’s the worst one. It’s the serum magnesium, which is so insensitive that it can be actually higher than normal after you’ve had a heart attack. The heart attack has been caused by having too low a magnesium like being on Nexium. But when it has a heart attack, some of that magnesium leaks out into the bloodstream making the serum magnesium look…

Dr. Hotze: Look good.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: …higher than normal, so the cardiologist thinks, “Oh, well, he shouldn’t have any mag here. He’s already has way too much.” They’re utterly clueless. They do not look at the biochemistry of healing, of finding the cause and the cure.

Dr. Hotze: Well, listen, on that point about magnesium and red blood cell magnesium which we checked, our providers check on all our guests, what I had found is that routinely, they fall within the range. The range is 4.5 to 6.9 or something like that, I don’t know. That’s what our range is from LabCorp on RBC magnesium. I looked at that and I know that the vast majority of people are magnesium deficient, so while we check…I can’t think of anybody that I’ve seen, any of my particular guests, I’m sure there’s some out there, we just don’t see it really below the normal range, but I’m thinking that that range that the lab has is takes in the 90…it’s mean plus or minus 2 standard deviations. If everybody that’s getting tested is low and so they make the lab value this low level. Everybody who’s low falls within a normal range. They’re all normal for everybody being low. I think, and tell me if you’re on, but I think you really have to take it above, get it above that level to do any good. I always…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: I always…

Dr. Hotze: I always…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: I always…

Dr. Hotze: I always tell my guest, I tell them to take a minimum…if they’re a small lady, minimally 600 milligrams of magnesium glycinate. If they’re regular sized, 800 to 1,000 to push them until their problems are resolved. If you havet leg cramps and muscle cramps, I can assure you, you have low magnesium. I promise you. You can take that and that’ll get rid of that. Also, if you have poor sleep habits, magnesium…and blood pressure. Folks, the most common cause of hypertension or high blood pressure, there is a cause for it contrary to what your conventional doctor will tell you, there is a cause and it’s low magnesium. You can routinely give magnesium, we’ve done it here on thousands of patients when they came in and have high blood pressure, we get them up on the program, but I ensure that their taking magnesium plus vitamin C and some arginine and maybe a little potassium, but that magnesium…I push magnesium and 80% of the time, we will get their blood pressure normalized. Now, it’s important to start taking that magnesium when you’re young. Don’t wait until you get rock-hard arteries and now you have inflamed arteries and you’re 75 years old and you want to try to use magnesium to relax or smooth muscles. Well, they’re damaged throughout your whole body and they’re not going to respond like they should earlier. This goes to the point, when should you start eating right and taking vitamins, minerals and nutrients and exercise? When you’re young, that’s when you start so you stay healthy. You don’t wait until you start getting sick and fat and getting high blood pressure or diabetes and now you’re going to change your habits. Just don’t get them. Anyway, that’s my second soap box.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Third.

Dr. Hotze: Third? Okay.

5. Mycotoxins

Dr. Sherry Rogers: We have Medications, Mercury, Monsanto, Mangled fats and next is Mycotoxin. Because most people were brought up on antibiotics and they have a lot of Candida and other bad fungi, Rhodotorula, etcetera, in the gut, unfortunately it causes leaky gut which then creates autoimmune diseases which they’re told there’s no known cause. MS, colitis, etcetera. In fact, just about every disease is autoimmune because we do make antibodies, even in cardiovascular disease, against the various parts of the cell. The problem with a lot of these is that when folks have a leaky gut, bacterial and food antigens cross into the bloodstream and so the immune system says, “Whoa. These are new things and we’re supposed to fight off anything that we don’t recognize that we’ve never seen before.” The body makes antibodies against this bacterial, yeast, food antigens. The problem is that many antigenic receptor sites on our tissues also resemble those…that lock and key antigen, antibody thing can hook in there and this causes part of our epidemic of thyroiditis where people make antibodies against their own thyroid.  One of the big problems that we’re seeing now is that not only do they make antibodies against their thyroid, but these antibodies don’t just detect the thyroid, they attack the brain, too. It’s another cause of silent Alzheimer’s that insidiously develops.

Another problem that folks have when they leak these antigens is they develop antibodies to foods that never bothered them before. What we did is we published a medical paper for doctors and a book for everybody with all this information because it turns out that three out of four people with any type of arthritis, even if it’s from an old injury, if it’s rheumatoid which is the worse type, supposedly incurable. If they don’t eat the nightshades; potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, cayenne, chili, paprika, etcetera, modified food starch, a lot of different hidden food contaminant names, they don’t hurt. All this information is in Pain Free in Six Weeks because, for example, if I have potato, it swells up my psoas muscle, P-S-O-A-S, and it mimics a ruptured disc with severe pain and a paralyzed leg. I had to make my luscious husband promise not to take me to the Emergency Room because we know the antigen antibody complex will drop off in six weeks and it does and I’m back to tennis.

But that’s how serious it can be. When we did the study that we published in a medical journal, we took some of the worst cases. We took children with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. You ask any rheumatologist, there is no known cause, no known cure. In fact, the medical center where I graduated from, they wanted to put these children on chemotherapy for their rheumatoid arthritis. Every one of them was cured just by going on the nightshade-free diet.

It doesn’t matter if they’re 80 years old or 8 years old. Pain Free in Six Weeks, if you have any arthritis, you want to learn all the ins and outs because that’s one of the main cripplers for a lot of people who no longer play tennis or golf or whatever because they have bad knees, bad shoulders, bad back, you name it, whatever.

Stacey: Dr. Rogers, just to interrupt you for just a moment because a lot of people listening to this podcast, people are trying to look for natural approaches to health and people have heard for years that tomatoes are supposed to be really good for you. I think this will come as a surprise to them to hear you talking about that they are a nightshade and what does all that mean. Could you just briefly describe what that means, the nightshades and why people might want to avoid tomatoes?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: It’s because when we have taken a lot of antibiotics, for example, or a high-sweet diet, it upsets the balance inside the gut. Now you can get overgrowth of yeast because yeast, for example, are not killed by most antibiotics. They’re killed by antifungals but not antibiotics, so they have a heyday. They grow out of proportion. They inflame, they infect that lining of the gut. This causes the gut to leak the gap junctional proteins, the spaces between the cells in the gut become enlarged.

Now, food particles can seep through that the immune system has never seen because they were always kept inside the gut. For example, I was brought up on tons of tomatoes and tomato sauce. It was a poor family. I was the oldest of eight so we had lots of Spanish rice. What happens is now, you would never think of a food allergy, which is why we wrote the book The EI Syndrome so that people can figure out their own food allergies, because if you go to a doctor who measures food antigens, there are about 12 mechanisms by which you can have a food allergy.

The blood test only checks for one. You’re still way out of the ballpark. The best thing is to do the diagnostic test which cost nothing in the EI Syndrome and learn how to figure out your own food allergies. Let me clear up on the nightshades. Not everyone has problems with nightshades. Only if you have a leaky gut can you develop problems because the nightshades, they broke down the molecules across the blood barrier getting to the bloodstream, you make antibodies still.

Dr. Hotze: Nightshades in and of themselves, if you’re healthy, aren’t bad for you, right?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Right. Yes. The lycopene, like Stacey was saying, they have wonderful benefits for people.

Stacey: I’m sure I heard a sigh of relief out there. Okay.

Dr. Hotze: But if you have arthritis and joint pain, eliminate the nightshades and that would be your peppers, that would be your tomatoes, your potatoes, and a host of other things. Look it up.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Yes, but it’s the basis of the American diet so they really have to reel in because…like one year, folks came in and they said, “I’ve been so perfect. No arthritis and at Thanksgiving time, I was so good. I just ate the turkey and a few other things.” I went to the grocery store and lo and behold, the turkeys are injected with modified food starch, modified food protein. Guess what that is? Potato starch.

Look at all the people on gluten-free, what do they use instead of the wheat? They use potato. We’re going to have an epidemic of even more arthritis that we ever thought of because people are now ordering out Blue Apron and all this stuff. To make things look pretty and fresh, what do you put on? A lot of colorful tomatoes, peppers, green, red, yellow. It’s just the beginning.

Dr. Hotze: Very interesting, so corn starch is…I’m sorry. The starch, potato starch of course, that they’re using in baked products, as gluten-free, they’re using potato starch and of course potatoes, a nightshade. There you’re going to have a problem. You’ve got a problem. Okay, What’s six?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, in fact I’ve even seen some liposomal vitamins made by some very famous people. If you look at their liposomal vitamin C, they put paprika in it. It’s a nightshade. If the liposomal technology takes it inside the cell, how long does it take to get rid of it? We don’t know.

6. Manufactured Xenobiotics

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Anyway, so we have for the Seven Ms we have; Medications, Mercury, Monsanto, Mangled Fats, Mycotoxins, and we’ve hardly touched any of these, and then the Manufactured Xenobiotics, because, for example PFOAs, you would know them as Teflon. That’s a great way to create cardiovascular disease. Most people are loaded with Teflon. Look at your Teflon pans, it wears off after a while, plus it is in your carpet, in your furniture, it’s everywhere. It’s in your computer. That’s just an example of one chemical, but probably the worst one of all are the phthalates, P-H-T-H-A-L-A-T-E-S. This is all in the Detoxify or Die. The phthalates, the plasticizers, actually leach out of plastic water bottles and plastic soda bottles and Saran Wrap and so forth, into the food and they damage the very fundamental beta oxidation, the very fundamental chemistry of fatty acids just like that statins do. They can create every chronic disease just with the phthalates, the plasticizers. We are never going to be away from them, and so people have to learn how to get them out of their system because we’re just so utterly toxic. It’s…

Dr. Hotze: Well, let’s talk about, how do we get rid of…mind you folks, all you folks out there that think, “Well, I’m not drinking that water out of my tap. I’m getting bottled water.” Well frankly, in many cases, the bottled water you’re drinking is just tap water that they put in a plastic bottle. That’s just it. I mean it’s crazy. You’re going to pay a premium for that. Even if you get good spring-fed water and there’s some good products out there with good water, they’re in plastic. The plastic leaches out of the sides of the bottle into the water and you can taste the difference. You can get a bottle of water in plastic, whether it’s Ozarka or whatever, and you can get Mountain Valley water in glass. You can taste them. You can taste the plastic in the plastic water bottle and that gets in your system. Those are xeno…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Xenobiotics.

Dr. Hotze: Yes, they’re xenoestogens.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Yes.

Dr. Hotze: They’re xenoestrogens. They mimic estrogen. They’re hormone disruptors, they disrupt your hormones, the production and utilization of the hormones, the production of the hormones and the ability of the hormones to get into the cell. They damage the receptors. They disrupt your hormones. They’re called xenoestrogens because they have a very similar effect as estrogen molecules and so it causes a host of problems. It causes men to have low testosterone levels. It gives women estrogen dominance, which adversely affects their thyroid through the production of thyroid binding globulins. It causes a host of health problems, and that’s just drinking plastic out of the glass. I’m sorry that’s just drinking the water in a plastic bottle. Those plasticizers get into your system, but they’re everywhere. All the petrochemical products, you breath them, they are in your food, they’re in the packaged food. You have all these xenoestrogens. They’re petrochemical products is what they are. These are all derived from petrochemicals which are xenoestrogens and are ubiquitous. They’re also not only in the food, in everything you drink but what you slather on your body.

Women are particularly bad about putting stuff on their body. They always have creams and all that. My wife puts all kinds of creams and all this stuff that I never did and don’t do. One day, about two years ago, I said, “Honey,” I looked at some creams she was putting on. I looked at the side of the bottle and I can’t tell you the number of chemical products that were in there. I said “Baby, what are you doing? These are all petrochemical products. These are going right into your system. They disrupt the hormones. It’s not good for you.” It’s a shame because here at the Hotze Pharmacy, our compounding pharmacy, we compound natural products using natural estrogen and vitamin C and natural oils without any petrochemicals at all that we can use. I said, “Honey, we have this at the office.” But it’s kind of like Cobbler’s kids never had shoes. The doctor does natural approaches to health, his wife is putting on some kind of lotion that’s full of petrochemicals. Anyway, she learned her lesson about that, but that’s very dangerous. These are the petrochemicals that cause problems and that’s why there is a tremendous host of health problems related in our country, related to hormone imbalances and deficiencies.

Cancer Cells

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, in fact if you want to tell her how they discovered the phthalates, researchers at Yale were studying breast cancer cells from humans and they were then adding chemotherapy. Well, first they would add a carcinogen to make the breast cancer cells grow even faster, and then they would add various chemotherapies to see which ones might slow down the cancer growth. Guess what happened? They didn’t even have to add the carcinogen because it turned out the cancer cells started growing wildly as though the carcinogen had been added.

It was the phthalates, the plastics leaching out of the petri dishes that acted like fertilizer for the breast cancer cells. It’s just one more reason why folks should…back on vitamin D, this is driving me crazy because my mind goes, when I talk about one nutrient, it goes to like 12 different directions at once.

A very important thing is that, did you ever wonder why a cancer cell is so different from other cells? It does many things that other cells cannot do. For example, cancer cells make stem cells which everybody is learning about now. When these go then to various organs, they can become a brain cell, a lung cell, a bone cell. They can become whatever they want. There is one nutrient that makes the cancer cells not make stem cells so that they can metastasize. You know what that nutrient is?

Dr. Hotze: What?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Vitamin D. You know what nutrient the Journal of the American Medical Association trashed last year by doing the most unscientific studies? Vitamin D. They underdosed it. They used too short a period, etc., so their study came out saying, “Well, vitamin D doesn’t really help anything with cancer or blood pressure or heart,” because they designed the study so it wouldn’t help anything.

Dr. Hotze: So it would fail to begin with?

Stacey: Yes.

Dr. Hotze: I’m sure.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: By the way, back on the normal levels of nutrients that you were talking about, I totally agree because what we tell folks is, “Have your minerals and vitamins be in the top half of normal.” In other words, if the lab says normal is 4 to 6, then you want to be 5 or higher, because now, all the research is coming out and verifying this. They’re saying, “We can’t quite figure it out. People in the lower half of normal are the sick people.” They just don’t get it that the norms were made on bloods that were kicking around the labs from people with one foot in the grave, six medicines, umpteenth diagnosis. They did not use hundreds of well people with no drugs. They used blood that was in the lab from sickos already, that’s why a lot of the norms are not normal. Vitamin D, it says 30 on LabCorp and Quest, you should be over 80. The T3 should be over 3.5. It says 2.5 is fine. Then a lot of people have subclinical hypothyroidism. I’m so glad you did your thyroid book because that started people learning about thyroid and its epidemic now.

7. Managed Care

Anyway, on the Seven M’s. We’re not done. We have Medications, Mercury, Monsanto, Mangled Fats, Mycotoxins, the Manufactured Xenobiotics, and the worst thing, Managed Care, because everything you have, whatever your symptom is, when you go to a doctor who deals with that symptom, his practice guidelines which are dictated by the man in the medical center whose income depends upon doing research and is funded by the drug industry, he makes the practice guidelines.

The practice guidelines come out being, “You have this symptom, you need this drug. You have this problem, you need that drug.” They never look for the cause and the cure. As I’ve said, I’ve been through with readers in phone consults in two dozen countries, records from everywhere, and they do not look for cause and cure. Basically, medicine is practiced blindly. They are absolutely blind. They do not know…for example, I cannot imagine being a surgeon and not wanting to know, first of all, a person’s vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, etc., levels before they go into surgery. I wouldn’t want to be an orthopedic surgeon or a dentist who inputs implants in without knowing the N-telopeptide, one of the crystal ball tests that we talk about in the newsletter, because that shows if you are losing bone, if you are not having the right nutrients so that you can keep calcium in your bones, instead of dumping it in your heart, brain and other blood vessels.

Again, I’ve never seen an orthopedic surgeon check a vitamin D level. I think a third grader would tell you that, “If somebody’s bad enough to have a joint replacement, maybe we’d better see if there’s something wrong with their bones.”

Managed care is extremely dangerous because it does not look for cause and cure.

Dr. Hotze: If it seems odd that it doesn’t…my dad used to say, “If something seems so obvious and people are doing things that just aren’t reasonable, because the obvious thing would be to do something else, there’s a money trail. Of course there’s a money trail for the pharmaceutical companies and the insurance companies. Their goal is to keep people unhealthy. You go like, “Well, That’s so harsh.” No they don’t want to be healthy. You’re a cash cow for them. As long as you’re sick, you’re going to be on their medication and they’re going to charge you fortune for it and they’re going to buy off the politicians so that somebody pays them full top dollar for it. As a matter of fact, in the Medicare patients, they passed a law in Congress that the government could negotiate with them. The HMOs can negotiate all prices for drugs, but they wouldn’t let the federal government…the federal government has to pay top dollar for all their drugs and drugs couldn’t come from across the borders at a cheaper price. It’s basically a way that the pharmaceutical companies can make astronomical profits and keep everybody sick and the poor doctors at the bottom of the feeding chain. The poor doctor, he’s in a terrible quandary. He’s in a Gordian Knot. He trained in medical school, wanted to help people, never learned about natural approaches to health. Now he gets out. He find out he’s going to be owned and controlled by the pharmaceutical company…he’s going to be trained by the pharmaceutical companies, so he’s brainwashed, and then he has to go to work for an insurance company which tells him what to do.

If he listens to this podcast or reads one of Sherry Roger’s books or one of my books, he goes, “Gosh. I’d like to try that.” He goes and tries it. The HMO and PPO will slap his hand and say, “You do that, you’re out of the program.” Well, he didn’t have a way to make a living. He didn’t know how to go out and set a cash-based practice. Then what he has to do, he goes like, “I don’t like this insurance anymore because they’re slow paying me and they’re cutting all my fees and they’re capitating and I’m working harder and harder and making less and less. I’ll go to work for the hospital.” Now he sails back to the hospital. The hospital will say, “We’ll take care of all that. Don’t you worry about any bill. We’re going to pay you a salary.” He goes work for the hospital. They go like, “Well, Dr. Jones, we’re expecting you to put patients in the hospital. We expect you to use our lab and all the imaging and you’re really not holding up your end of the deal here.” He gets the message. He’s got to make money for the hospital by sending his patients in.

It’s a crooked system. It’s a corrupt system. What you have to do folks, you have to recognize the system for what it is, corrupt. You have to decide that you’re going to do a 180 and get out of that system and get yourself on the path to health and wellness, naturally. That really entails, I’d say four key things you could do to help get yourself on the path of health and wellness.

The first and foremost, always is, eat healthy. You have to healthy. What that means in our books, what we teach here at the Hotze Health & Wellness Center, we say eliminate sugar and eliminate all the simple carbohydrates: pizza, pasta, bread, cookies, cakes, potatoes, rice. They all are starches which mean they are sugar molecules hooked together. When you put them in your mouth, they begin turning to sugar and you get a sugar high. They then produce insulin and you get insulin resistance because you have a high-sugar diet and you burn up the sugar and you get sugar highs and sugar lows. You’re eating all the time and you never feel satisfied and the body’s making more and more insulin. You’re getting sugar high and you just have to drive the insulin to fat. You’re getting fatter and fatter.

Now, you’re getting inflammation in your arteries. You have coronary artery disease and then you have high blood pressure.  Then you don’t think well and you have brain fog because all your blood vessels are getting glycolated with…the proteins are getting glycolated, sugar hooked to them. Kidneys aren’t working well and you’re going downhill. That’s all because you’re eating sugars and simple carbohydrates. You have to eat good healthy oils, good healthy fats, good green vegetables. I like to take my vegetables without cooking them, although I do have steamed broccoli, and steamed spinach and steamed kale, etc.

I take every morning, for a green drink, I’d like kale and spinach and I have the ladies here in the office put in 10 ounces of water and they just blend that up. That’s what I drink in the morning, two glasses of that. I used to put eggs in, I’m not putting eggs, in although I do believe in using eggs, I’m just not. I want to have them clean to get those good essential nutrients in there. Then what’s important is for you to get…you don’t need much meat but if you’re going to eat oils, it’s good. Eat eggs, eat butter, eat fish oil, olive oil, olives. Eat coconut oil, avocados, cheeses. These have good healthy oils in them. Eat those. Those will be good for you and they will satisfy your hunger.

What I’d like to explain, when you’re on a high-sugar diet it’s a lot like starting a fire on the fireplace with a newspaper. It burns right up. You have to put more newspaper in. Burns up, burns up and finally you figured out, “Maybe if I put a log on here, it would burn slow.” Well, the newspaper is like our sugar and the simple carbohydrates are like the newspaper. They burn up quickly. You get sugars highs, sugar lows. You’re always hungry. Whereas when you put good, healthy oil in your body, it satiates your brain. Your brain has a satiation center, it’s satisfied and you’re just not hungry. You eat good healthy oils, good green vegetables and eat them as fresh as you can and preferably organic if you can get it truly organic, and you don’t need to eat a whole lot of meat, but you’re going to eat some, three of four ounces. If I eat three ounces, I feel full.

The other you could do is also fast. Eat once a day. You don’t have to eat three meals a day. I look at my dog, we have a beautiful Lab. I asked my wife, Jane, “How come we only feed him once a day?” “Well, he’s fine.” Well, he eats spice and beef in the morning, every morning. He’s thin, he’s trim, he looks great. I started thinking, you look at Americans, why do you need three meals a day? You don’t need…this idea of eating six meals a day to lose weight? No, no, no. The way you lose weight is you eat healthy and a diet that has a good healthy fats. Some people call it a ketogenic diet. I don’t know how much you promote that, but we do promote ketogenic eating. The people that do that, you’re just not hungry and you’re thin. When you eat the fat, your cholesterol level goes down. It’s just the opposite of the pyramid that the federal government and the agricultural department and all the doctors and the diabetic society says, “Eat a lot of grains.” Well that’s really smart. Grains are sugar. If you eat a lot of grains, guess what, you’re going to be sick. But that’s good for the drug companies and it’s good for the economy. Imagine if people..

Stacey: It absolutely is.

Dr. Hotze: Imagine if people were well, what do we do to the economy? We wouldn’t be needing drugs. Dr. Rogers, I want to mention one other thing. One other thing is cholesterol. I read something that I hadn’t thought about and here I am 68. I’ve been in natural approaches to health for 30 years. We celebrated our 29th anniversary of our Hotze Health & Wellness Center just this last month, by the way, on July 19. Anyway, I’m reading and of course, I know that the cause of underlying heart disease is inflammation caused by not only the petrochemicals in the environment that we drink, breath, slather on our bother, also by the mercury and the aluminum and the lead and the other metals that we have in our system. You have mercury amalgams in your teeth, gals and guys, get them out. Get rid of them because if you take that one filling out and throw it on a 10-acre lake, the EPA would condemn it for mercury poisoning. But we’re going to put it in our body. The ADA, American Dentist Society, is going to say, “There’s no problem with it.” I had a dentist guest of mine. I had a quick dentistry because he got palsy but he swore, and he heard me on the radio talking about mercury and how dangerous it was. He came up to all of us.  I could tell the guy had mercury poison. He had palsy because he was exposed to mercury every day at the office.

Anyway, the third thing is infections, also caused inflammation in the arteries and it settles in the coronary arteries. Those could be bacteria; Chlamydia, pylori bacteria, any infection, any viral infection can settle in your arteries and remember, the coronary arteries are under the most pressure. When they get inflamed from these toxins, what happens is they begin to deteriorate because they’re under pressure, stretching, getting crushed, and so the body has a backup mechanism that heals the arteries and that’s called lipoprotein(a). It’s a form of cholesterol of the protein and it’s a patch.

Then the body wants to stabilize those arteries and then calcium is absorbed in there and we get calcified arteries. But in a sense, it’s good because the body wants to make those rigid so they don’t break open and tear. Well, the problem is, if you have chronic inflammation and you have narrowing of the arteries and you throw off a plaque or a clot comes off and you clog up your arteries, you get a heart attack. You don’t want that to happen. You can prevent that using vitamin C. Vitamin C. I don’t know where you are on this, but I adopted Linus Pauling and Matthias Rath’s philosophy about heart disease being caused by low grade scurvy and low levels of vitamin C because humans don’t make vitamin C. I have advocated vitamin C for 29 years or 28 years and have taken 10,000 milligrams a day. Now I take 15,000 to 20,000 a day. Occasionally, vitamin C IVs. As a matter of fact, with our guests at the office, if they come in and they’re sick, I’ll give them 30, 40, 50, 60, 75…my daughter came in and had mono and I’ve had her on high dose of vitamin C. She’s taking 75,000 milligrams of vitamin C every day and doing much better now.

Stacey: Feeling better.

Dr. Hotze: Yes.  Anyway, that’s my fourth soap box of the day.

Dr. Hotze: Well, that’s the story. One other thing we could talk about and I can’t make it into an M, I wish you could. Ladies and gentlemen, you need to listen closely. One of the reasons we have epidemic hypothyroidism in the United States, I would say at least 70% of the population is hypothyroid that are adults. At least. You can look because 70% of the population is overweight and half those people, 35% are what? Obese. Now in 1960, 16% of the population was overweight, 8% was obese. In Europe right now, today, is there 70% overweight? No. Sixteen percent of Europeans are overweight, 8% obese just like we were 60 years ago. What happened in America? We let the fertilizer companies convinced the city managers and city councils to put fluoride in the water. Fluoride, if you look at the Material Safety Data Sheet, MSDS of the federal government, it’s a toxin and it’s highly toxic to the thyroid gland. It inhibits the utilization of iodine because it’s a halogen. It inhibits the utilization of iodine which you have to have to make a thyroid molecule. You have to have iodine atoms attached to it.

Also, fluoride poisons the enzyme which converts the inactive prohormone T4 thyroid with four iodine atoms hooked to it, to T3. It poisons that. You have to have thyroid hormone intercellularly at the mitochondria power plants in order to activate those power plants to catalyze the production of energy. They’re like sports plug, that’s what the thyroid is. If you’re poisoning your body so you don’t make enough thyroid hormone or if you make it, you can’t convert it, guess what, your metabolism goes down. Then your weight’s going to go up. We see people all the time, even when they’re eating right, they can’t lose weight because they’re hypothyroid.

My philosophy, Dr. Rogers is this. If anybody, I don’t care what your blood test is, although we look at antibodies, we always look at thyroid antibodies but as far as your TSH, which a conventional doctor uses as their gold standard. If an individual has the signs and symptoms of hypothyroidism, that person deserves a therapeutic trial of natural desiccated thyroid. Not synthetic thyroid. Not Synthroid, not Levoxyl, not Levothroid but natural desiccated thyroid. You increase it incrementally. Start with a low dose incrementally. If they’re basically in their 50’s and not having any problems, you can do a quarter grain or a half grain every couple of weeks and you work them up to 2 grains and see how they do. Check their blood. As long as you keep the blood within the range, you can push it. Some people get well with 1 Grain of thyroid, some people get well on 4 Grains of thyroid or something in between but we probably treated at least 30,000 people with desiccated thyroid hormone at the Hotze Health & Wellness Center, which I would dare say is more than anybody in the country. We’ve had just phenomenal results. It’s just a God-send. I learned that from Dick Mayberry. He told me back in 1992, Dr. Mayberry…yYou know Dr. Mayberry, I believe don’t you?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Yes.

Dr. Hotze: Well, he told me, he said, “Steve,” or “Dr. Hotze” back in ’92, “You have women in your practice or patients in your practice,” I think he said women, “who have hypothyroidism. They’re making antibodies to their thyroid gland.” We did a study of that here. We found that 30% of the women that came in, at that time we were strictly an allergy practice, air borne and food allergies, what we did is we tested everyone for thyroid antibodies. We found that 30% of the females and 18% of the men had antibodies to the thyroid gland and we have tested that for the last 27 years. That’s what we find. Now, if you look at on blood tests it’s so crazy. Now they go zero to thirty antibodies are normal. Well, no. Thirty antibodies aren’t normal. No antibodies to your thyroid gland are normal. It’s crazy. They do that because then the doctors don’t have to do anything about it. They don’t know what to do about it. It just keeps the phone calls down. We find that very commonly among our guests and they have the symptoms of low thyroid.

It’s the fluoride in the water. What you have to do is to get reverse osmosis, that’s what you have to do and please don’t take toothpaste. Go read the side of your toothpaste tonight. Get it crushed out or whatever you have, arm and hammer, look and the side there’s a warning there that says, “If you ingest any more than you put on your toothbrush, immediately call Poison Control or call your doctor.” Now that’s crazy. Why we would be putting that in our mouth? If the kids are under six, don’t let them use it. That’s how dangerous it is, but they never say that. People look at it and they say, “Well, that fluoride is going to keep you from getting cavities.” Don’t let your dentist put fluoride on your teeth at the office. I don’t know what in the world they’re thinking, but if you want to just destroy your thyroid function in your body, intercellularly and in the gland itself, just keep drinking that fluoride water and brushing your teeth with fluoridated toothpaste. I can promise you, you’ll end up hypothyroid. You go to your doctor and you’ll check your blood and he’ll say, “You’re in the normal range. You don’t have low thyroid but I think you’re a little depressed and you need a little Prozac, sweetheart.” That’s what they do.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, that all falls under the sixth, the manufactured xenobiotics or toxins, because the PFOA, the Teflon that coats all of the frying pans when you eat out and all the processed foods, are made with Teflon materials. That in itself is a fluoride component. It’s PFOA, the F is fluoride. Like you say, in their toothpaste and everything else. Folks have no idea the amount of…we’re exposed to over 84,000 chemicals and most of them have never been tested.

In terms of the hypoglycemia, a lot of folks, as we showed in How to Cure Diabetes, if they get rid of their Candida or they clear their hypoglycemia with manganese, molybdenum, chromium, vanadium. Vanadium is an insulin mimic. There are a lot of reasons why people have hypoglycemia that they can get over if they are still craving because that does drive their appetites as well as being hypothyroid. I couldn’t agree more with everything.

Dr. Hotze: What about this, I’m just curious. Give me your take on the keto eating program. It was just really the old Atkins diet. That’s basically what it is. I can’t believe they’re putting people in ketosis. What’s your thought…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: I’ve read everybody’s books and studied their…everybody who’s written on ketosis. Then you go to the flip side, Ornish,then you go back to Bob Atkins whom I’ve lectured with. Then you have Gandry and all the people who are pro-ketogenic, I personally would not dare put anyone on it without first looking at all of their nutrients because I know people who have tried to do it and, of course, we never know quite well how they actually do their day-to-day eating and planning and so forth. They did not do well. There are a lot of things in the ketogenic diet that, for example, the lectins that are a popular thing to avoid. If a person heals their leaky gut, they don’t have lectin sensitivity. You only get gluten interrupt with the lectin problems and those things if you have a leaky gut, intestinal hyperpermeability, and that’s a major thing. You don’t get autoimmune disease without leaky gut. You don’t get a lot of stuff without the gut. If you go back to the gut and heal that, chapter 4 in How to Cure Diabetes or else No More Heartburn, which is even more thorough in the gut. You’ve got heal that gut.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Then we’ve gone into a lot of other ways, things to heal within the newsletter in the last few years, because it underlies the problem that starts a lot of chronic disease for everyone.

Dr. Hotze: Right, this is key…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: We started an acronym in the last few years in the newsletter that when you’re stuck with any disease and you want to get rid of it, THINK: Toxins, Hormones, Intestines, Nutrient Deficiencies and Knowledge Gaps. T-H-I-N-K. If you go into those five categories, you will usually find the cause. I, the intestines and interference fields, major for most people.

Dr. Hotze: Go over that again. It was toxins, hormones…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: ….intestines and interference fields. Nutrient deficiencies and knowledge gaps of the stuff they just don’t know.

Dr. Hotze: Right…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: They just have to read.

Dr. Hotze: Well, this is what’s really key, listeners, you have to keep up your gut. To clean up your gut, you have to clean up your diet. If you’ve been on antibiotics, which most Americans have…you need a yeast eliminating program, which is basically ketogenic, but it’s elimination of all your sugars and carbs. Then we give Nystatin and then we also follow that with…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: That’s off the market now.

Dr. Hotze: We have it here.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: he two manufacturers in the United States that make Nystatin, they stopped it.

Dr. Hotze: We compound it. We buy it in bulk so we make it here. We compound it.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, I would like to know about that because I would out that in our newsletter for folks because we thought that there was no other option.

Dr. Hotze:       We have here at Hotze Compounding Pharmacy, we do.

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Okay.

Dr. Hotze: Then we do a course of some fluconazole. I don’t really like to use that but it’s important to do that because you got to get it into the mycelial phase…

Dr. Sherry Rogers: You have to go on either side of the gut. Inside isf the Nystatin because it’s not absorbed and that’s where the mycelia, the little fingers of the yeast are clinging to the wall and inside, in between the cells, then you have to attack it from the blood vessel side too which is the key to Ketoconazole or Nizoral.

Dr. Hotze: That’s exactly right. What I’d like to do when we come back on another show, I would like to get your opinion, your thoughts on peptides. Have you done any writing on that on your newsletters yet?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Well, yes but we’re so much more focused on the 10 common mistakes that endocrinologists or thyroid specialists make and how the cancer patient is really cheated because they’re not looking at vitamin D to stop them from…the cancer cells from making stem cells that cause metastasis. They’re not using enzymes that we showed in Wellness Against All Odds that dissolve the sialoglycoprotein outside of cancer cells so that now they’re naked in the breeze and the immune system can actually destroy them. They’re not using the carrot juicing that was within Wellness Against All Odds that Harvard researcher showed 20 years ago, reprograms the cancer gene, It makes it go back to a gene that makes cancer cells commit suicide or apoptosis, etc.    People are screwed if they’re not reading because medicine is totally drugs, devices and surgery.

Dr. Hotze: That’s exactly right. Everything that Dr. Sherry Rogers believes about natural approaches to health, she has developed through her own life experiences and a tremendous amount of studying. She has written about this and she has been a tremendous help to tens of thousands of doctors that have learned from her and hundreds of thousands of patients. We’re pleased to have had you on the program again, Dr. Rogers. You were, as always, so bright and articulate in your comments. I thank you for joining us.

Stacey: Yes, and I do want to remind our audience, Dr. Rogers, that the best way they can reach you is prestigepublishing.com?

Dr. Sherry Rogers: Yes or 1-800-846-6687 and I want to know more about the Nystatin for our newsletter for everybody who needs to know about it.   We want to remind folks, make yourself too smart to fail.

Stacey: Absolutely. I was going to say all those Ms you talked about, you could file it under one big misinformation. Thank you for coming on the program for shedding the light and giving us all knowledge. I don’t know about everybody else, I took copious notes myself.

Dr. Hotze: I did too.

Stacey: A lot of supplements were talked about in the program, as well, you can always call Hotze Vitamins for some of those products: vitamin C, vitamin D, don’t do the toothpaste, do the Spry toothpaste instead. You can go to hotzevitamins.com or you can call us at 800-579-6545. That’s 1-800-579-6545. As always, you can reach out to us for a complementary consultation at 281-698-8698. Thank you so much everyone for joining us today, here at Dr. Hotze’s Wellness Revolution.

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